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CdB Whitewater Paddling Club Discussions => Paddling => Topic started by: Bill Schlarb on May 19, 2011, 11:24:20 PM
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Hi folks,
After much to-ing and fro-ing at Whisper's this evening, we decided on the following:
Please note change of destination/dates
Saturday May 21: Grass River (NY) - Lampson Falls to Russell
This is a technical class III + IV river that is considered to a step up from the Taylorville section of Beaver River.
Here is the link to the AWA description: http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/River/detail/id/1310/
We can meet at the Ultramar Station on Prince of Wales Dr. (45.240639,-75.71233) at 8:00am and head to the border from there.
Give me a call after 6:30pm on Friday for more info and sorting out rides.
Monday May 23: Hudson River (NY) - Indian River to North Creek
This section is a large flow, fairly continuous class 3/4 run through the Hudson River Gorge.
It is rafted commercially so you can expect big water without too many consequences.
Here is the link to the AWA description: http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/River/detail/id/1321/
Since getting down the Indian River requires the water from the 10:00am dam release from Lake Abanakee,
we need to get to the put in by 9:30am or so. This means leaving Ottawa at 6:30am to cover the 270 km distance.
We can use my house (361 Viewmount Dr.) as a rendezvous point and head out of town from there.
Please be ready to leave by 6:30am, it's early but catching the dam release is important
Give me a call after 6:00pm on Sunday for more info and sorting out rides.
Bill
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Seems like fun but passeport is expired... Next time! :)
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Bill, I'm surprised! With all the natural flows to choose from you pick a dam release and a 6:30 a.m. start to boot? People are going to start calling you S & M Schlarb! Curious why you didn't all choose to sleep a little longer and hit some stuff you haven't hit in awhile like the Toboggan section of the Diable? Shorter drive, no crowds, no rafts. Or you could have done an Otter/Indy duo run. The rivers are closer and I would argue the rapids are more fun and you can run a dam release when other stuff is too low.
Just sayin. I don't have a stake in this as I have other "family" travel this weekend.
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Oh my gosh! 6:30 am start. This better be good...is it true what Rob is saying? Is there good stuff closer that doesn't have rafts and we can do the Hudson at other times?
S:)
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If you wait until Monday there will be no water in the Grass. It was 1900cfs last night, is 1600 cfs now and will hit 1000 by Saturday morning. Get on it Saturday if you are thinking of running it. Hudson is on the rise so the water isn't going anywhere there.
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I'd be happy to do the Grass...can we leave later than 6:30 am??
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I'm good with the Grass for Saturday as well and/or looking into Rob's suggestions.
Wendy
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I have paddled the Hudson several times and it's a classic! The highest level that I ran it at was 6 feet and the Blue ledges section was HUGE! Watch out for the "Soup Strainer" river right, towards the bottom of the Blue ledges section, nasty hole. At six feet or higher this river requires a bomb proof role and you must be comfortable in continuous 3-4 whitewater. Scouting the Blue ledges section is not possible as it is a long section; you must run it blind with the general rule being stay just left of center all the way. The side of the river is not always your friend as there are large boulders that cause nasty holes at certain levels. As you run this section the waves keep getting bigger and bigger until you pass the? Soup Strainer?. This river is similar to the Kipawa at higher levels with less flat water.
Have fun!
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Rob and I spoke earlier today and he wasn't aware that the Diable is well below the level we ran it at last year (20 cms vs 30cms).
Based on that info he agreed that it would not be a very good run.
As for Saturday, just as last night's decision was made by consensus, we can always switch days as the group decides.
Looking forward to my phone ringing a-lot tonight!
Bill
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Hey Bill,
Is this a shuttle bunny friendly trip with shore viewing??
Paul
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Wow...it sounds like a lot of fun!! I do love big water. Might be worth the 6:30 am start time after all...
Paul - if you want to be Wendy and my shuttle bunny...we'd be happy to have you!! Especially if you show up with coffee :)
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Perhaps Ray is right: the Grass won't stay high much longer. I'm up for anything, the bulldozer is ready yo go. --C.
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Wow...it sounds like a lot of fun!! I do love big water. Might be worth the 6:30 am start time after all...
Paul - if you want to be Wendy and my shuttle bunny...we'd be happy to have you!! Especially if you show up with coffee :)
Thanks Sandra and Wendy but only if there is enough room.
Paul:)
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Okay. Once the trip is finalized...ask Bill if he thinks we have room. Then you can come...if it will be interesting enough for you. I will be driving. You may just need to meet us somewhere.
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I am in for tomorrow as well. Looking at Jim's description it look like a lot of fun.
I will call Bill tonight to inquire about car pooling.
Annie
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Hey Bill/Jim/Larry
Do you remember what level the river was at when we ran it a few years ago? My memory tells me it was 4-4.5, but I could be wrong. The description sounds a lot tougher than I remember it ....
w
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I would agree with Ray on this one ...
Plus the Grasse is much more fun
The Hudson has a much bigger watershed to collect water ... it should be around 6 on Monday ...
Ah what does it matter ... gone on an exciting canoe trip for the weekend ... have fun folks whatever you decide
Larry
If you wait until Monday there will be no water in the Grass. It was 1900cfs last night, is 1600 cfs now and will hit 1000 by Saturday morning. Get on it Saturday if you are thinking of running it. Hudson is on the rise so the water isn't going anywhere there.
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Okay. Once the trip is finalized...ask Bill if he thinks we have room. Then you can come...if it will be interesting enough for you. I will be driving. You may just need to meet us somewhere.
S'okay Sandra. Bill told me the river your doing tomorrow is not to spectator friendly. I'll pass. Have a good trip!
Paul
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Hi folks,
Group consensus is for the Grasse on Saturday, please see the details in the first post for meet time etc
Bill
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Hey Bill/Jim/Larry
Do you remember what level the river was at when we ran it a few years ago? My memory tells me it was 4-4.5, but I could be wrong. The description sounds a lot tougher than I remember it ....
w
Your recollection is pretty good, it was about 5 ft. that day.
Jim's description is very accurate for 6 ft. on the gauge, continuous 3 - 4 rapids.
Lots of fun to paddle but you need to stay in your boat.
Bill
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Hey Bill/Jim/Larry
Do you remember what level the river was at when we ran it a few years ago? My memory tells me it was 4-4.5, but I could be wrong. The description sounds a lot tougher than I remember it ....
w
Your recollection is pretty good, it was about 5 ft. that day.
Jim's description is very accurate for 6 ft. on the gauge, continuous 3 - 4 rapids.
Lots of fun to paddle but you need to stay in your boat.
Bill
Ah yes - staying in the boat ... must work on that one day. Have fun on the Grasse !
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Hey Bill,
Will call you tonight, we are two who are interested on doing the hudson river on monday, we have one car.
Chuck
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Anyone paddling tomorrow that is coming from the Glebe or Centretown area?
Thanks,
Wendy
613-234-1986
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Coming down with a friend from Montreal.
Let's make sure we hook up this time.
Meeting at the take-out for 10h15.
LD
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I paddled the Hudson yesterday!!!
Waited over an hour with Alex for the Ottawa crew to show up in a panic as the dam release on the Indian section would apparently likely end in 10 min... Not a relax way to start the paddling, but the river itself was...
Overall a group of 9. Pretty long/continuous rapids. A few holes here and there, mostly widely spread. I liked St-Regis better.
The return home was slooooowww at the border with almost a 2hr wait. An Hasidic (spelling?) jew was cutting 2 lanes across back and forth. Then a fist fight almost broke between another 2 dudes... A bit of entertainment during the border wait.
Beats Saturday...
LD
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Thanks, Bill!
For organizing two great days of paddling in upstate NY on the May long weekend.
Wendy
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I'll second that - as I recovered from Saturday.
LD
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Me too... Thanks for organize Bill! I liked how different the rivers were and that there weren't a lot of bugs.
I am so happy we live in an area with so many different rivers and that our club that runs them!
Sandra