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Title: Diable @ the base of Mont Tremblant - Sat 17th
Post by: Larry W on May 15, 2014, 05:12:05 PM
Hi

It's the May 24 weekend that's early this year.

Any interest in doing the Diable on Saturday ... according to the link below it's in the green
River description in the link:
http://www.quebecwhitewater.com/en/river-level/view/33-diable-mont-tremblant (http://www.quebecwhitewater.com/en/river-level/view/33-diable-mont-tremblant)

Might be a bit higher with rain expected in the area on Friday.
Sections A+B are done and there's a River left channel before the X that is runnable ...

Proposing 2 meet places and time

8:45 am: In Ottawa -- Tunney's Pasture --- parking lot at Parkdale and Scott behind the Statscan building
for car pooling purposes ... short drive over the bridge to the Hwy 50 on the Quebec side

11ish am at the Tim Hortons at Montee Ryan and the 117 (which is the usual route to the base of Mont Tremblant)

That should set us up to be on the river by the crack of noon.

Larry




Title: Re: Diable @ the base of Mont Tremblant - Sat 17th
Post by: marcg on May 15, 2014, 08:27:23 PM
I would be available either Sunday or Monday
Title: Re: Diable @ the base of Mont Tremblant - Sat 17th
Post by: ChristianG on May 15, 2014, 09:43:43 PM
Sounds good! Saturday it is. Monday too.

--C.
Title: Re: Diable @ the base of Mont Tremblant - Sat 17th
Post by: jonyak on May 15, 2014, 09:59:54 PM
I'm in.
Title: Re: Diable @ the base of Mont Tremblant - Sat 17th
Post by: DaveH on May 15, 2014, 10:24:24 PM
I'm interested, but won't know until tomorrow night.

Might be a bit higher with rain expected in the area on Friday.
They are currently calling for 35-45 mm in Mt Tremblant for Friday:
http://www.theweathernetwork.com/weather/canada/quebec/mont-tremblant
Such rains should take things quite a bit higher I think.
Title: Re: Diable @ the base of Mont Tremblant - Sat 17th
Post by: Sandra K on May 16, 2014, 07:01:46 AM
Never done it. What's the skinny on the rapids?  I am torn between this and a high water run down the Gat. Can only paddle Sat. As of right now.
Title: Re: Diable @ the base of Mont Tremblant - Sat 17th
Post by: Dirk on May 16, 2014, 07:44:02 AM
Hi,

Jim and myself are coming as well.

BTW, we will drive after the Diable to the Oureau can camp there for two nights. The Oureau has three sections which, we will decide which section to run depending on the water levels.

Anybody interested in joining?

Dirk
Title: Re: Diable @ the base of Mont Tremblant - Sat 17th
Post by: marcg on May 16, 2014, 09:48:04 AM
If I can find someone to share the driving then maybe we could meet up on Sunday.  I will try to twist Christian's arm.

Marc

Hi,

Jim and myself are coming as well.

BTW, we will drive after the Diable to the Oureau can camp there for two nights. The Oureau has three sections which, we will decide which section to run depending on the water levels.

Anybody interested in joining?

Dirk
Title: Re: Diable @ the base of Mont Tremblant - Sat 17th
Post by: Larry W on May 16, 2014, 10:13:10 AM
Hi

Rapids are not skinny, they have flowing water over some rocks.
It's a creek boat run.

I only ran it twice in my history of boating ,,, once in 2009 and the other time in my Dancer (if anybody remembers that era)
In 2009 Bill was there, so tap into his memory bank. Jim was there as well but his memory cells are non-existent.

The trick is to put on River Right below the dam which involves descending down the steep embankment. In 2009 we put in above the dam, but the portage route on River left made you miss most of the canyon because there was no way of getting back to the river.

On river right below the dam, you will have 3 strokes for warm-up before heading into a Class III gravy train. After that it's all a blur in my memory.
The map in the link sort of gives you a rough idea but fails to add the blub from Fortin's guidebook about the left channel... Of course if folks want to take a look at the X we can do that too ...

In 2009 that was before the extension of Hwy 50 and the improvements to Hwy 323 were completed.

Larry

Never done it. What's the skinny on the rapids?  I am torn between this and a high water run down the Gat. Can only paddle Sat. As of right now.
Title: Re: Diable @ the base of Mont Tremblant - Sat 17th
Post by: lafreniere.luc on May 16, 2014, 10:30:03 AM
Sure, why not. Never done it, should be fun! Count me in.
Title: Re: Diable @ the base of Mont Tremblant - Sat 17th
Post by: Cindy D on May 16, 2014, 11:31:14 AM
it's suuuuper nice run, I wish I could join you, the knee is recovering very well but it's just too soon.
Title: Re: Diable @ the base of Mont Tremblant - Sat 17th
Post by: JohnCyr on May 16, 2014, 11:47:23 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZcNEmGbbZ8

thats half the flow
Title: Re: Diable @ the base of Mont Tremblant - Sat 17th
Post by: jforbesca on May 16, 2014, 01:53:44 PM
It is a class IV creek section (scouting is required for the bigger drops).
I have non-existent brain cells., so cannot describe the rapids, and they are challenging (but worth the run).

Level is 29.43   (Low is under 16 cms, High is 32 cms), so towards the high side.

Levels:
http://quebecwhitewater.com/en/river-level/
http://www.canot-kayak.qc.ca/info_debit/index.html

Desc:
http://quebecwhitewater.com/en/river-level/view/33-diable-mont-tremblant
http://192.77.51.51/~cleduc/Canot/cartes.html

Jim,
Title: Re: Diable @ the base of Mont Tremblant - Sat 17th
Post by: Sandra K on May 16, 2014, 03:19:33 PM
Thanks all for the info!!
Title: Re: Diable @ the base of Mont Tremblant - Sat 17th
Post by: lafreniere.luc on May 16, 2014, 07:13:15 PM
Well, I'm jumping on the "bail bus".

Apparently I was just hired for the weekend as a photo kayaker for Esprit/Jim. Doing it for the fun of it. So you will have to live on without me. Hopefully you can all come to terms with this.

Luc
Title: Re: Diable @ the base of Mont Tremblant - Sat 17th
Post by: waverider on May 16, 2014, 07:32:47 PM
Would like to car pool for the diable tomorrow either with my vehicle or other.  Would meet at the exit on montée paiement off of the 50 in the IGA parking in Gatineau.

Richard 819-664-2690
Title: Re: Diable @ the base of Mont Tremblant - Sat 17th
Post by: PKostyan on May 16, 2014, 07:33:44 PM
I'm in.
Dirk I will join you for camping Sat night and the Ouareau on Sunday. Anyone wanting to do the same I would be happy to carpool.

Peter
Title: Re: Diable @ the base of Mont Tremblant - Sat 17th
Post by: Dirk on May 16, 2014, 08:01:14 PM
Hi Peter,

that is great! Keep in mind that we cannot share ride since we will stay for two nights at the Oureau. So I will see you Saturday 8:45 at Tunneys.

BTW, we will be a gang of 7

- Jaclin, Isabelle, Barbara and Dan Crocker -> they will do the Rouge 21 milles and meet us at th Oureau
- Dirk, Jim, Peter -> go to the Oureau after the Diable

Will be fun!

Dirk
Title: Re: Diable @ the base of Mont Tremblant - Sat 17th
Post by: DaveH on May 16, 2014, 10:11:07 PM
I won't be making it  :(  Have fun Folks!

Title: Re: Diable @ the base of Mont Tremblant - Sat 17th
Post by: Sandra K on May 16, 2014, 10:16:55 PM
Me too. Have a good time all.
Title: Re: Diable @ the base of Mont Tremblant - Sat 17th
Post by: jonyak on May 16, 2014, 11:17:57 PM
I'm gonna skip this time.

Title: Re: Diable @ the base of Mont Tremblant - Sat 17th
Post by: Larry W on May 21, 2014, 12:42:13 PM
hi

We descended the river as originally planned.
The 50 mm rainfall provided a spike in the gauge reading. Depending on which gauge you look at 63 cm/s or 128 cm/s (links to Quebec rivers on the club website  --- the rivers tab), was the reading.

Nobody else was on the river. Looking at photos, it appeared that everybody was sitting in the eddy at Bates island.

Short day on the river.
At the "X" on the map, there are 3 channels to choose from and we chose the main line down through Toboggan.
Scouting from River left would have been better to pick out a line to run.

Not too many flat water sections with most of it continuous Class III/IV.

Larry
Title: Re: Diable @ the base of Mont Tremblant - Sat 17th
Post by: ChristianG on May 21, 2014, 03:40:49 PM
Lesson learnt: when attempting to put in on small wet rocks after descending to the bottom of a canyon just a few meters below the giant boil of a big waterfall and above a Class III+ rapid with undercuts etc., don't volunteer to be last.

When nobody is there to hold your boat when strapping in and the boat starts slipping into the water, that's very--let's say--unnerving. The idea of running the rapid with no skirt nor paddle was not attractive. I ended up having to climb back up the canyon and bushwack my way along a rapid that I really wanted to run! Dirk, you owe me one here!

Great river, but at above 50 m^3 / s, it is definitely not like the video that was posted above. Not much 'black' water, mostly white stuff...

--C.
Title: Re: Diable @ the base of Mont Tremblant - Sat 17th
Post by: AdamN on May 21, 2014, 03:56:04 PM
Would have loved to have seen the video....