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Title: Rouge for Halloween Saturday
Post by: DaveH on October 24, 2009, 11:19:35 AM
The level is at 62 CMS right now and rising. It looks like it will be near or over 80 by tomorrow noonish, and 80 is considered the medium level.
http://www.cehq.gouv.qc.ca/Suivihydro/graphique.asp?NoStation=040204

If folks are interested, aim to leave the city for 10:00 (or a bit after) and meet on the East side of the Highway 148 bridge that crosses over the Rouge at 11:30.
Title: Re: Rouge for Sunday?
Post by: DaveH on October 25, 2009, 12:13:05 AM
Well, perhaps next year  :(
Title: Re: Rouge for Sunday?
Post by: ChristianG on October 26, 2009, 04:26:29 PM
Hi!

The level seems to be stabilising around 80. We can still go...

--C.
Title: Re: Rouge for Sunday?
Post by: DaveH on October 26, 2009, 11:18:09 PM
I've got this problem for the next few days called work. With the forecast it looks good for Saturday or even Friday afternoon though. Urr better make that Saturday or Sunday as the rain is forecast for Friday and Saturday as of now.

So yah the skis are still deep in storage.
Title: Re: Rouge for Sunday?
Post by: Annie V. on October 27, 2009, 02:48:35 PM
I would be up for it. I would like to get an early start on Saturday since I have an Halloween party in the evening. Bill do you have any plans?

Annie
Title: Re: Rouge for Sunday?
Post by: ChristianG on October 27, 2009, 04:16:00 PM
Saturday==ok. Halloween party later too.

--C.
Title: Re: Rouge for Sunday?
Post by: Bill Schlarb on October 27, 2009, 04:42:55 PM
Saturday sounds good...

Bill
Title: Rouge for Saturday
Post by: Annie V. on October 28, 2009, 10:10:29 AM
It seems like the Rouge on Saturday it is.

I'm not so sure what road to take to go there but if I am not mistaken, it is the opposite way of the Ottawa. Is the Westgate mall a good place to meet? Or something more on the Other side? How about 8h30AM?

Annie
Title: Re: Rouge for Sunday?
Post by: DaveH on October 28, 2009, 11:23:46 AM
Good, this should make for a spooky outing  :o

Yes Annie it is east of Ottawa, and there are a couple of different ways to get there. I prefer to cross over into Hull and then take the #50 and then the #148. Some others, especially anyone out in the east end of town, may prefer to stay on the Ontario side and cross over at Hawkesbury.

http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=ottawa,+on&daddr=calumet,+qc&hl=en&mra=ls&sll=45.646688,-74.618111&sspn=0.111845,0.220757&ie=UTF8&z=9
Note: Calumet is a couple of km east of take-out.

For carpooling I'm thinking of something a bit more downtownish or even over in Hull, but I don't have a particular spot in mind. Would the pumphouse work?
Title: Re: Rouge for Sunday?
Post by: ChristianG on October 28, 2009, 05:28:43 PM
Good.

Let's figure out a meeting place/time. The river level is 80, which is considered medium. Annie, myself and others ran it in our playboats at about 155 earlier this summer, and that was quite a ride...

--C.
Title: Re: Rouge for Sunday?
Post by: LouisD on October 28, 2009, 08:28:35 PM
OK. No drinking allowed for Christian for the remainder of the week.
Got to stay sober long enough to go paddling this Saturday, man.
Like these fellows on the attached picture.
(Some will recognize the usual suspects...)

LD

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Title: Re: Rouge for Sunday?
Post by: windowshade on October 28, 2009, 09:16:09 PM
Scarry looking dudes...
Title: Re: Rouge for Sunday?--Shouldn't it be Saturday instead?
Post by: ChristianG on October 28, 2009, 10:09:15 PM
Well, talking about scary... There's that homeless guy...

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Title: Re: Rouge for Sunday?
Post by: LouisD on October 28, 2009, 10:15:06 PM
I think you caught me working on my wolverine make-up for Halloween...
Title: Rouge for Halloween Saturday
Post by: DaveH on October 29, 2009, 12:21:35 AM
Meet on the East side of the Highway 148 bridge that crosses over the Rouge at 10:00, as some folks want to get back early for trick or treatin.

For carpooling, there is a smaller CEGEP campus called Louis-Reboul located on Boulevard Sacr?-Coeur towards the North end of DT Hull. I believe (not certain but almost) that one can park there on the weekends without any hassels:

http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=ottawa,+on&daddr=calumet,+qc&hl=en&mra=ls&sll=45.646688,-74.618111&sspn=0.111845,0.220757&ie=UTF8&ll=45.438288,-75.71492&spn=0.006986,0.013797&z=16
Just to the right of the Scouts Building

I propose leaving from that parking lot there at CEGEP for 8:45, but if anyone wants to chime in with another possible parking lot go for it.

The level has been holding right around 80 CMS which is a medium level.
Title: Re: Rouge for Sunday?
Post by: Robertm on October 29, 2009, 01:41:37 PM
I'm thinking of going as well...in process of reviewing my apparel. Is anyone else drysuit free? Does drytop (and whatever goes under) , semi-dry pants plus farmer john wetsuit seem reasonable for Rouge this time of the year? In case that's nuts please someone bring me down to earth.
Robert
Title: Re: Rouge for Saturday
Post by: Robertm on October 29, 2009, 01:53:56 PM
Annie, are you and other west enders still meeting at Westgate?
Robert
P.S.
Sorry for not spoting you on time on Island Park-I was deeply in thought.

It seems like the Rouge on Saturday it is.

I'm not so sure what road to take to go there but if I am not mistaken, it is the opposite way of the Ottawa. Is the Westgate mall a good place to meet? Or something more on the Other side? How about 8h30AM?

Annie
Title: Re: Rouge for Saturday
Post by: Bill Schlarb on October 29, 2009, 04:16:34 PM
Westgate at 8:30 works for me.

Bill


Annie, are you and other west enders still meeting at Westgate?
Robert
P.S.
Sorry for not spoting you on time on Island Park-I was deeply in thought.

It seems like the Rouge on Saturday it is.

I'm not so sure what road to take to go there but if I am not mistaken, it is the opposite way of the Ottawa. Is the Westgate mall a good place to meet? Or something more on the Other side? How about 8h30AM?

Annie
Title: Re: Rouge for Saturday?
Post by: LouisD on October 29, 2009, 04:21:06 PM
I will very likely have to come back in town early enough to drive Ms Daisy around.
If we leave at 8h30am, what is the expected ETA and return time?

LD
Title: Re: Rouge for Saturday
Post by: Robertm on October 29, 2009, 04:24:48 PM
Thanks Bill, see you there.
Robert

Westgate at 8:30 works for me.

Bill


Annie, are you and other west enders still meeting at Westgate?
Robert
P.S.
Sorry for not spoting you on time on Island Park-I was deeply in thought.

It seems like the Rouge on Saturday it is.

I'm not so sure what road to take to go there but if I am not mistaken, it is the opposite way of the Ottawa. Is the Westgate mall a good place to meet? Or something more on the Other side? How about 8h30AM?

Annie
Title: Re: Rouge for Halloween Saturday
Post by: LouisD on October 29, 2009, 04:26:28 PM
Note that I merged this topic with Rouge for Halloween Saturday since it was getting confusing...
Title: Re: Rouge for Halloween Saturday
Post by: Annie V. on October 29, 2009, 09:56:50 PM
I'll be at Westgate Mall at 8h30.

bill what do you sufggest: The Mamba or the Star?  I was thinking of taking the Star unless you suggest otherwise.

Annie
Title: Re: Rouge for Halloween Saturday
Post by: windowshade on October 29, 2009, 10:03:25 PM
Annie, I think it might be a good idea for you to bring your Mamba for this one... :o Have fun guys, I'm going to paddle the Mighty Champlain Rapids :P with Gu?tan, the proud new PAPA of a healty baby boy  named Mathieu!

Paul ;D
Title: Re: Rouge for Halloween Saturday
Post by: Annie V. on October 29, 2009, 11:21:46 PM
But I did it in the Orbit (my old play boat) at 170. Now it's half of that and I'm serious paddler  ;).
Title: Re: Rouge for Halloween Saturday
Post by: windowshade on October 30, 2009, 08:22:08 AM
Okay Annie, have some fun!!

Paul :)
Title: Re: Rouge for Halloween Saturday
Post by: ChristianG on October 30, 2009, 04:03:08 PM
Hi all.

The Rouge level is going down a bit, it's now about 75. I'm bringing my Super Star, since we all did it at a much higher level (over 150) in playboats, and that was fun... But Annie, unless I'm wrong, the last waterfall is always runnable, so maybe you can bring the Mamba!

Dave H., there is a chance that I would need you to come pick me up, as maybe Sara will pass on this run. Since you may not have intenet at home, here's my phone #: 613 355 2470, and I live at 87 Goulburn Apt. 2 in Sandy Hill (i.e. it's on everyone's way for a change). Give me a call! Or, alternately, since I am also on Bill's way, maybe I can get a ride with Herr Schlarb?

I'll talk to Sara soon, but I just wanted to post something before everyone goes home.

--C.
Title: Re: Rouge for Halloween Saturday
Post by: Robertm on October 30, 2009, 05:55:03 PM
Hi Christian,
If you find yourself without ride give me a call. Please check your pm for the phone#. Since it's a bit of a detour for me I won't be offended if you get a ride from someone coming your way. And lastly, to avoid confusion, I'm still aiming at Westgate at 8:30.
Robert
Hi all.

The Rouge level is going down a bit, it's now about 75. I'm bringing my Super Star, since we all did it at a much higher level (over 150) in playboats, and that was fun... But Annie, unless I'm wrong, the last waterfall is always runnable, so maybe you can bring the Mamba!

Dave H., there is a chance that I would need you to come pick me up, as maybe Sara will pass on this run. Since you may not have intenet at home, here's my phone #: 613 355 2470, and I live at 87 Goulburn Apt. 2 in Sandy Hill (i.e. it's on everyone's way for a change). Give me a call! Or, alternately, since I am also on Bill's way, maybe I can get a ride with Herr Schlarb?

I'll talk to Sara soon, but I just wanted to post something before everyone goes home.

--C.
Title: Re: Rouge for Halloween Saturday
Post by: Annie V. on October 30, 2009, 05:55:57 PM
I thought of bringing the Mamba, but there's a bit of a walk and it is heavy!!

Annie
Title: Re: Rouge for Halloween Saturday
Post by: DaveH on October 30, 2009, 07:08:28 PM
Robert I'll grab Christian in the A.M., and that means I won't be stopping at the CEGEP like I was hinting that I might. It would be nice to find a practical parking lot over on that side of town though for future trips to the Rouge, Gat., Little Nation, etc.

The level has started to turn after all this rain and it will be on the plus side of 80 for tomorrow, but I imagine still under 100 (or 110 anyhow). Pretty much ideal for good features, and not too flushy, from what I remember of the river.



Title: Re: Rouge for Saturday?
Post by: DaveH on October 30, 2009, 07:17:40 PM
If we leave at 8h30am, what is the expected ETA and return time?
LD

10:00 at the take-out (we could be driving in the rain so allow a couple extra minutes for that). 11:00 warming up on the river. Hmmm the take-out, I usually just say whenever, more or less like an Ottawa River trip. The length of river time will be similar to a decent day running the Ottawa...perhaps an extra half hour?. So whatever that gives us.
Title: Rouge for Halloween Saturday - report
Post by: LouisD on November 01, 2009, 11:01:43 AM
So, we went to an Halloween party on the Rouge and got all dressed up for the occasion.

This was my first time on the Rouge and I enjoyed the descent, company and action.
Annie, Christian, DaveH, David McDo, RobertM and our venerable Bill (and I) braved the inclement weather and got blessed with a great day on this mostly wild river.

The river has a nice wild feel to it...and of course no raft to contend with.
Some eery scenes with the bridge under construction, the giant crane and concrete pillar.
We took the easy way out from the falls section (really? that Habitat 80 didn't feel like the easy way out at the top of the stairs...)

To balance out our heavily testosterone loaded team, another female party of 2 shared the river with us.
We got to see them dig into the 'best' features, heu, head first, including the washing machine.
Annie, not to be bested by these young ladies, upted the ante and decided to go in the washing machine backward.
After a "clean" bill of health, we kept moving downstream.

The girls from the other party showed us some potential lines in the first significant rapid. Then Christian and McDo led our own way through; kayaks and things things flying left and right...setting the pace.

DaveH went for the boof before the last fall and did a flawless demonstration.
I decided I'd practice my seal's skills and tricks with a beach ball over the winter, before trying that next time...
Onk! Onk!

Although it rained most of the day, I stayed warm staying upright (but for once), thanks to the now less unfamiliar big Habitat 80 and the accelerated heart rate crancked up from anticipation especially before that Washing Machine. Next time, Louis, don't forget your undergarments, best way to stay warm.

Papa Bear kept a close watch and made sure everyone had a good day.

I had to scoot right after the takeout and missed the well deserved post partum discussions over some hot drinks; parental duties pulling me into about 4-5 more hours of driving, still ahead for me.

This is possibly the last outing of the season and a good ending as far as I am concerned.
Wrapping up a great personal 3rd season; the Achigan with the old boys, riding the rooster tail on the City Section of the Petawawa, surfing Garb and a prime Transformer wave...
I did miss the Beaver and the Moose (grrr)...but this leaves some good stuff for next year!!!
Ah! Next Year!!!

LD
Title: Re: Rouge for Halloween Saturday
Post by: ChristianG on November 02, 2009, 03:31:42 PM
"This is possibly the last outing of the season..."

No... Let's try another run!

Does anyone know the level at the Owl gauge? Also, the Gatineau was quite low two weeks ago (10.5) but may be rising due to rain. Then the Rouge is above 100 now... Finally, the Britannia is above 3.4, rising...

--C.
 
Title: Re: Rouge for Halloween Saturday
Post by: DaveH on November 02, 2009, 06:04:49 PM
Does anyone know the level at the Owl gauge?

8.5 this A.M. according to: http://www.ottawakayak.com/

That Britannia # looks promising!

I have to say that my seal launch on Saturday went a bit smoother than this guy's:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmFP2NJU0BU&feature=rec-LGOUT-exp_rev-rn-HM


Title: Re: Rouge for Halloween Saturday
Post by: windowshade on November 02, 2009, 07:55:12 PM
I think seals should sue that guy for misappropriating the term seal launch! Too funny Christian, you should definitly post that on boatwerks. Paddlers will laugh themselves silly!

Paul ;D
Title: Re: Rouge for Halloween Saturday
Post by: ChristianG on November 03, 2009, 06:29:16 PM
Hi all.

The trip to the Rouge was a complete success. We all managed to stay warm, and the water was still ok for my bare hands. Some had brought big creek boats, but I knew I would have fun in my playboat, and I was happy to see that Dave McD and Robert M had a great day too in their small boats. Louis was remarking how our little gang had improved since last year. Indeed. This was possible, in a major part, thanks to the patience of the more experienced people who have helped us!

First drop: I completely screwed up the line, and was sent flying towards the sky, only to plunge right into the hole we were supposed to avoid. Luckily I was the first one to go, so everyone else who was waiting above saw exactly what NOT to do... From the pool below, I watched Bill demonstrate the proper way to do it (he's the only one who stayed upright).

I must say Annie's run backward in the Washing Machine was at first scary, but in the end she only had trouble in the funny waters way below the drop. Unfortunately her boat ended up pinned against a rock, but a nice lady who happened to be there managed to retrieve the boat!

I always chickened out of the seal launch between the last two big drops because I didn't know actually how far downstream the next drop was. As we were to see very soon afterwards, it is quite far away and there is a lot of distance to recover if anything happens during the seal launch. Next time I'm in!

HW 50 will cross the river approximately 50 m upstream of the last waterfall, and certainly as much above water level. The canyon is very narrow and deep, definitely not Park'n'Play. In the rain and fog of last Saturday, the incomplete bridge pillars (six-story high IMHO) looked very impressive, reminiscent of some post-nuclear apocalypse scene... Good thing is, the river practically isn't affected.

This section of the river is quite nice. It's not as beginners-friendly as the Gatineau or the Ottawa, but something to consider with a little experience. No flatwater to speak of, and there is a nice warm-up rapid at the beginning. Followed by a section of class II-IV rapids more or less continuous. After that, at anything but the lowest water levels, there is a long and painful portage to avoid five major drops. Between the last two is a long flat-ish section that can only be attained by a seal launch (Dave H), or down a nasty gully (most of us). After these five drops, the home run, a class II-III continuous rapid that is very fun. We took the boats out under the HW 148 bridge, meters away from the Ottawa river.

Look at a few photos! Cheers...

--Christian



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Title: Re: Rouge for Halloween Saturday
Post by: ChristianG on November 03, 2009, 06:33:44 PM
More... Notice the 'Colours of the 80s'...

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Title: Re: Rouge for Halloween Saturday
Post by: DaveH on November 03, 2009, 09:31:31 PM
Hey, I've always said I would make a big splash somewhere someday ;D and that is why I landed it so flat.
Title: Re: Rouge for Halloween Saturday
Post by: windowshade on November 04, 2009, 08:15:55 AM
You made quite an impact ;), that's for sure!

Paul ;D