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CdB Whitewater Paddling Club Discussions => Paddling => Topic started by: wendy on June 11, 2012, 06:49:37 PM
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We're expecting the same great water levels as last year's festival!
Date..................................Hours..........Requested Dam Release
Friday, June 22, 2012......10am ? 4pm.......130 ? 150 m3/s
Saturday, June 23, 2012.....8am ? 4pm.......130 ? 150 m3/s
Sunday, June 24, 2012.......8am ? 2pm.......130 ? 150 m3/s
So plan on coming out June 22-24th and running the Kipawa - it's going to be a great time!
Wendy
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? Camping is available at the takeout for $20 per night (includes rally registration)
? Camping is also available at the putin in the village of Laniel (separate registration fee of $5 should be paid at takeout)
? Rally proceeds go to support river preservation
? Fish fry dinner will be hosted Saturday night by the Sorenson family on Saturday night at 6 pm at a cost of $20 per plate
? Rafting will be available from Esprit Whitewater; for more information go to: http://www.whitewater.ca/main.html
Don?t miss this exciting opportunity to paddle a beautiful and pristine river, gather around the campfire and socialize with friends.
See you at the Kipawa!
http://www.kipawariver.ca
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Y????????????????????????? I'M too excited ;D
come on BOATERS FROM CDB COME to ABBITIBI on kipawa river
the level will be PERFECT PERFECT for this WEEK-END its very a good river for CANOES- C1 - KAYAK all kind of boats are good on this river.
IT's class 3-4
you will see what we mean by the big FLIES d'Abbitibi
youhou
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Timing is bad as I have to get ready to move the weekend after but hey...i dont wanna miss it two years in a row. Well see whos all going and costs and carpooling and such and I might be in on this!
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"you will see what we mean by the big FLIES d'Abbitibi "
And bring rubber boots, it can get very muddy...
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JohnCyr Ne manque pas sa pour rien au monde this, its a exceptional river probably the better intermediary river from QC!
Bast
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I'm coming to. 6:30 hour road, no so bad :)
If someone would like to carpool, let me know!
Daniel
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You mean over 6 hours drive??? When are you heading out, Daniel? Do you think I could do this river?
Dani
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Dani the rapids on this river is class 3-4 and big rapids can be walking.
I did last year whit the club from abbitibi it uses this river like a shcool river and there was boaters from different levels it's sure all boaters have fun on this river But it's a long river which takes
several hours (16km) ...rool the boat at 85% is recommended.
Daniel I will carpool whit you probably.
Bast
819-3501342
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Dani -
If you can run a sauber line thru Coliseum you can do the Kipawa. That being said, you will be challenged. There are some rapids where portaging is not a trivial option; for example the top part of Hollywood requires some serious bushwacking if you want to portage. (unless that has changed; last time I did it was 2006). I'll try to dig up a description of the rapids which I had back then. Overall, its is a magnificent river and a lot of fun!
It is 424km from Ottawa to Laniel, QC (the put in). Google maps has it as 6.0 hours; which is
very conservative.
I'm looking to carpool; would like to leave Thursday night in order to paddle Friday thru Sunday.
Mike R.
613-823-4385
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Here's an excellent description of the rapids on the Kipawa:
http://kipawariver.ca/?page_id=57
Shivers running down my spine now - gonna be a blast! :-)
\MR
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Hi all.
Here are some options, in decreasing order of desirablilty in my experience. In all cases, return trip can happen after Sunday run, or Monday morning:
1. Leaving Thursday morning, with optional quick run of the Petawawa town section to break the trip. This means arriving in Laniel before sunset, better to set up tents etc. and allows to run the Kipawa river on Friday well rested.
2. Leaving Friday morning, with optional quick run of the Petawawa town section to break the trip. This means arriving in Laniel before sunset, better to set up tents etc. and allows to run the Kipawa river on Saturday well rested.
3. Leaving Thursday after work. This means driving unfamiliar roads in moose land in the dark and arriving at Laniel around 12:00, with not much marging for unexpected events (and believe me--they do happen). Setting up tents etc. in the dark. A run of the Kipawa would be possible on Friday, but not in ideal conditions...
4. Leaving Friday after work. This means driving unfamiliar roads in moose land in the dark and arriving at Laniel around 12:00, with not much marging for unexpected events (and believe me--they do happen). Setting up tents etc. in the dark. A run of the Kipawa would be possible on Friday, but not in ideal conditions...
Based on my experience of previous Kipawa rallies and other similar trips, options 1 and 2 are the most reasonable. For the folks who can not take the whole of Thursday off, leaving Friday morning makes the most sense. Imagine driving unfamiliar roads in moose land for hours in the dark, then run a long and demanding river with only a few hours of sleep...
By the way, what I've seen is that many people find out, after running the river once, that they don't have the energy for a second run the next day. It's not the Ottawa or the Gatineau... On the other hand, I did this run for the first during my second paddling season. Of course I went into every hole I was supposed to avoid, hit every wave the wrong way, but I was in a creek boat and I could roll that boat close to 100% of the time, so I had fun anyway. I do not recommend swimming in this river, however, even if many do... Some people do the run in a playboat, but the river is very long and you get pretty tired by the end. So in order to enjoy myself, I will bring a big creek boat again.
So what do you all think?
--Christian
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Remember that we are close to the summer solstice and we are going north. I remember noticing that it was still light at 9:45 up there, so the majority of any post work drive to Laniel
is not in the dark...
\MR
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No choice for me, stupid work!
Leaving Friday evening, won't be there til 12 or 2
When do people usually get up/put on?
I plan on camping at the take out (assuming I can find it lol)
Someone leave a light on? lol
See you in the morn!
jer
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Here's another member of the working class - I won't be able to leave before around 2.30 pm on Friday but am still contemplating about joining the party - any interest in car-sharing?
Dani
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It's great to see all the interest! It's going to be a fantastic weekend. The levels are confirmed at 130cms which are excellent levels.
See you on the Kipawa!
Wendy
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Option 3 for Mike R. and me (leaving Thursday 17:00 Eagleson park) and hope not meet a moose caus my doctor advise to reduce red meat :)
Daniel
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? Camping is available at the takeout for $20 per night (includes rally registration)
? Camping is also available at the putin in the village of Laniel (separate registration fee of $5 should be paid at takeout)
Which campground??
Robert
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"Which campground??"
A quick look at the map that I posted earlier will reveal those locations...
It looks like Bastien and I will be leaving Friday morning.
--C.
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Ok...
I know that the festival site (kipawa.ca) does not have all the information, but since directions to the hamlet of Laniel QC can easily be found using tools like Google Maps or the likes, I thought that the map that I posted
(http://www.cdb-ottawa.com/simplemachinesforum/index.php?topic=4923.msg13506#msg13506)
would carry enough information to find everything. I guess I was wrong... Here are the numbers:
--Hollywood rapid, take-out, rally headquarters and camping at Kipawa River Lodge
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kipawa_River):
47.049383 N, 79.388000 W
--Turn off from HW 101 to go to above-mentioned place:
47.112190 N, 79.363795 W
--Hamlet of Laniel, put-in and camping, all within a short walking distance of each other
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laniel,_Quebec):
47.041969 N, 79.270583 W
I've re-posted the map below.
--C.
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The takeout (Kipawa River Lodge) is the preferred camping location. $20/night, rally registration included. Fish Fry Saturday night ($20)! I think its pretty big and I'm assuming its first come first come first served for the weekend since I did not see anything on their web site...
There's also Camping Laniel: $30 for 2 people.
http://www.freewebs.com/campinglaniel/servicesprix.htm
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Thanks Christian!
One last question (for now lol)
Google says take 17 to 533 to 63(which turns into the 101)
Do you take this way, or is it easier/smarter to take 17 all the way to North bay, then turn up the 63. In my experience, roads with 3 numbers that don't start in 4 suck lol
What are your thoughts?
jer
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Hi
If you went via North Bay, your 6 hour drive just became 7.
One side of a triangle is shorter than the other 2
Keep right at Mattawa.
google street view - 533 is paved
Larry
Thanks Christian!
One last question (for now lol)
Google says take 17 to 533 to 63(which turns into the 101)
Do you take this way, or is it easier/smarter to take 17 all the way to North bay, then turn up the 63. In my experience, roads with 3 numbers that don't start in 4 suck lol
What are your thoughts?
jer
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Great! Thank you everyone for directions/clarifications.
Robert
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Sounds good,
Thanks Larry
jer
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Larry's correct. Go north west on the 533 at Mattawa, then turn right on the 63 when the 533 ends. --C.
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Is anyone interested in driving up on Friday?
Perhaps leave town around 3pm.
If not does anyone going on Thursday interested in carpooling?
Have room for 1 more paddler, boat gear, tent.
Thanks,
Bruce.
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Hi Jeremy,
Are you interested in carpooling on Friday to the Kipawa?
My preference is to go up on Friday as well.
Larry mentioned to me on Monday that there is camping at the put-in.
Break camp in the morning and then would be able to just wait there for the crew to show-up to paddle.
call me at 613-297-6961 or email at bruce.samhaber@samhaber.ca
I am flexible on departure time, but the earlier the better, especially if can beat the Kanata & cottage traffic!!
Which is why I posted for 3pm.
Thanks,
Bruce.
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Hi Bruce,
I might be interested in joining you on Friday, and should be able to make it for 3 pm.
Dani
dani.pohl@gmx.net
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For those of us without a GPS, what is the road where we turn left off of 101 to get to
the Kipawa Lodge? Is it Chemin de La Grande Chute (which I assume is the red line in Christian's map..)
Thanks!
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For those of us without a GPS, what is the road where we turn left off of 101 to get to
the Kipawa Lodge? Is it Chemin de La Grande Chute (which I assume is the red line in Christian's map..)
Thanks!
If you take a quick look at the map that I posted (twice), you will see a big yellow thumb tack marked 'Road to Kipawa Take-out'. I believe that I put it there to mark, hmmm, something like the road to the Kipawa take out... It is indeed the 'Chemin de la grande chute'. --C.
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Christian - thanks for the clarification. I'm gonna take the high road here (pun intended) and
refrain from any sarcastic remarks. ;-)
Your jpg map has 2 routes on it; one brownish, the other red. Wasn't really clear which one was the route. Maybe the red line is an older, crappier road? So now we know what roadsign to look for: Chemin de la Grande Chute (hopefully there is a sign). BTW that road did not appear on Google Maps directions when you type in the GPS coordinates for the takeout. It appears that the online mapping universe needs to catch up with providing instructions to this world class destination!
Thanks again, see you Friday. Looking forward to an excellent weekend!
\MR
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it's a forest road its for that it's not on google
C'est une route foresti?re.
see you there
Bast
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I try to go by satellite photos as much as possible. They, at least, are accurate... Unless I am mistaken, the road is just past 'Lac ? Chester', on the left side of the 101.
--C.
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So... Bastien is coming up from Kingston and we should leave Ottawa for Laniel around noon tomorrow, and we'll go to the take-out to set up camp. My mobile # is 613-355-2470. I'm getting excited... --C.