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GrahameH

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« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2008, 09:33:45 AM »
Get well soon!  That looked like a bad drop to swim from the pics and reports.  Lucky you didn't go over the next one.

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« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2008, 11:28:57 PM »
I?m sorry to hear about your accident, Bill.  Get well soon!
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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2008, 09:12:04 PM »
Get well soon Bill :). I'll call you in a while when you feel better and up to talking.

Paul ;D

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« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2008, 01:12:14 PM »
I have been "thinking of" taking a Wilderness First Aid for a while now, but will now find one and take it. I was one of those already on the other shore, and it was distressing, to say the least, especially as the stories of the injuries grew and grew before reaching us.

There were many qualified responders, even in our group (Toni - a nurse, Mano - a firefighter) who could have stepped in as well, but it may not always be the case. Regardless, even if there are qualified responders, someone taking orders who has some training is better than someone taking orders from them who doesn't.

It is also a reminder of the risks of our sport. If Bill, such a knowledgeable, capable paddler can have such an accident, we all must do what we can to get the most out of our sport while being careful of the risks. (and recognize that sometimes things just happen)

I'll post info on the Wilderness First Aid courses available in the proper section.

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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2008, 12:46:45 PM »
Well, let's hope he recovers quickly! Good job taking care of him, guys.

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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2008, 12:26:02 PM »
Thanks Rob and Larry for going to SYNY to check on Bill and then getting him home safely.

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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2008, 10:24:22 AM »
When stuff goes wrong, it's amazing to see qualified people step up. The first response at the accident scene was amazing. Two EMTs stepped forward, one Nick took control, his buddy providing support. The questioning ensued to assessed the nature and extent of injury and whether there was any head injury involved and whether he could be moved. Bill was on the wrong side of the river.When it was determined that he could be moved, he was shuttled over safely in an inflatable. Other people took control of gear and boats left behing by those taking care of Bill. Bill was pretty mobile while his own adrenaline was still pumping, but during the wait for the ambulance it started to subside and you could see the pain taking over. The EMTs stuck around to report to the search and rescue and then local authorities took control until Bill could be transported to an appropriate site large enough for a chopper to land. He had to pretty much get himself into the chopper, the pain of which would have been overwhelming, but for the morphine the ambulance guys administered. Plus they had him on oxygen because they weren't sure of the extent of lung damage. We hoped they would take him to Ogdensburg but the closest trauma centre was Syracuse. No less than three physicians, neuro, orthopaedic, and (I forget who else - it was almost 3 a.m. by this time) checked out our friend.

I think the only reason he was able to go home is that one of the doctor's cleared Bill to be discharged. Dr. Berube was from the LaChute area and did a bit of whitewater paddling and Larry even showed him some video of the Beaver. Dr. Berube questioned all of us for a bit, knew where Ottawa was, knew how far the drive home was and then asked Bill if he wanted to get out there that night. Bill said that would be his preference and the good doc said he would give Bill some pain medication for a couple of days and that would enable him to endure the ride home. Dr. Berube needed two other docs to sign off and two others came in to see him as well. Once we were in emerg at SUNY it was clear that he had been sent somewhere that had the resources and the professionals to do what was necessary. One of the Doctors definitely did not want him leaving. It was touch and go and when the drugs hit we didn't think Bill could make it out of there on his own steam. Larry called me over and said he didn't want to risk it and I was fine with that as long as Bill understood we would be leaving him there. There was good reason to leave him in a medical facility where he could receive qualified medical attention, instead of sticking him a station wagon with a burnt out headlight pumped up with narcotics, with two other guys with no medical training, not in their own country, never having been in Syracuse at 3 a.m. in the morning trying to find an open gas station before hitting the interstate.

We were about to leave under medical supervision and figure out some way to retrieve him in a couple of days and he said, "Let's give it one more try."

As you can tell from Larry's post, we all got home.

Lesson #1 - When you go across the Border, make sure you have travel medical insurance! This would have been a very different story if he didn't have it.
Lesson #2 - Paddle with friends. It's good to be with friends during the good times and even more so when the #@(! hits the fan!
Lesson #3 - I'm seriously thinking that if I'm going to keep paddling this stuff there might not always be EMTs around and getting some good first response training seems like a dam good idea right about now.




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Trip report - Beaver River - "It's all fun and games until...."
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2008, 01:44:06 PM »
Beaver River Trip Report.

Do you remember your Mother saying "It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye"? Well that how our weekend felt on the Labour Day weekend on the Beaver River in Upper State NY. But lets talk about the fun and games first.

On the Labour Day Weekend the Brascan Power company offers releases to different sections of the Beaver River. This year was my second time since the last year was such a good time. It is not a festival but sort of has that feeling with the number of boaters on the river. The Ottawa contingent was much larger this year as we seemed to have taken over Soft Maple Campground for the weekend. The first day on the Taylorville section is a good warmup for the weekend. This section is a good river for an intro to creeking. That's if you want to learn how to bounce off rocks or paddle in 6 inches of water down a slide. The entire section is only 1.3 km long and a normal run top to bottom only takes at most 15 minutes. By the time we got on the river, Alex had already done 8 runs of the first slide. Joanne was able to test her new Mamba which was purchased just last week. Ray as usual had his video equipment set up to capture all the fun in HD.

Back to the campground for the evening of refreshments and food. We made a trip to Lowville for dinner and to Walmart for supplies and watch Adrian flirt with the young cashier using his authentic Irish accent.  We were back in time to hear carnage stories of the Raquette River around the campfire. Eric must have hyperventilated to get that fire started. Ray held his 2nd annual "shot-gunning" beers competition with Steve winning the 2008 version ...

Day 2 was on the Moshier section. This section is definitely a step up from the Taylorville section. The first set of 15 foot falls offers a huckfest on one side of the river. Get in line and wait your turn, walk up and do it over a again. There is also a fun slide/boof move on the other side. The second set of falls is also runnable but the run out at the bottom of the second set is not very friendly. One guideline to follow is stay upright and in the boat. After that some class II and III  down to the infamous Moshier falls. Well it is really not a set falls at all but 4 distinct Class IV drops back to back. This has been describe as Christmas in September because the release on the Moshier section comes only once a year.  Some of the keen paddlers do multiple runs of the falls. Mike mentioned he had done 5 laps in a 2 hour span. Myself only once as the River Gods were watching me and on my side ... so why tempt fate. Everybody was having a good time until .....

Most of the group was sitting in the takeout parking lot when certain phrases were heard:

Does anybody have a cell phone with coverage?
Bad swim
need a back board
coughing blood

Unfortunately Bill had a nasty swim but it only sounded worse when you hear those phrases. We as in a "collective we" which included club members, paddlers and EMTs we were able to get Bill across the river and he was able to walk up on his own. The local sheriff took over control of the incident and given that there may be some internal injuries he would not let us just to take Bill home and a trip the hospital was necessary. So how does one do that when you are in the middle of nowhere? Well do we not have a Mother Heli in the club? Well the club has a new addition to that family now with Papa Heli .... yes folks a Medivac Helicopter .... with HD video and photos just to capture those precious memories. So where is the nearest Trauma Hospital with a heli-pad? Rob and I had to drive to Syracuse which is about 1.5 hours in the wrong direction. There are 5 hospitals in Syracuse but thankfully only one with a Heli-pad. We arrived at the correct hospital around 8 pm. By then Bill had already phoned home to inform his wife and the CT scans were already done. The radiologist hadn't a chance to look at the scans yet so Rob and I headed out for a dinner somewhere in the middle of a University town. We returned to the hospital and Nurse Jessica informed us that Bill is the proud owner of 4 cracked ribs.  If anybody has injured their ribs ... it's painful. After some consultations with the doctors, medication to kill the pain and paperwork, Bill was discharged. Of course all these events don't occur instantaneously so we just call it "hospital minutes" which is different from real time. So by 2:30 am we were in the car heading back home, Rob taking the first leg of the drive and me the second. I woke Rob up on the 416 just so he could see the sunrise.  Bill's wife, Anita was happy to see us but I am not certain how sympathetic she was to her husband's plight.

As for Bill ... well he will be in pain for at least 8-12 weeks ... but during the whole ordeal was in relatively OK spirits. Unfortunately Bill's paddling season is over, so send him a cheerful note only to remember that it hurts to laugh when your ribs are injured.

Larry W



When boat meets rock ... rock wins. Bill's ribs didn't fair any better. 

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