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Re: Trip Report: Rouge 'Seven Sisters' section Saturday November 5th 2011
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2011, 02:47:22 PM »
Saturday on the Ottawa sounds good to me. It just means two days of paddling which I can never say no to. Keep me posted we'll meet when it's convenient for your group. Also apparently he Ottawa is at 2 which is a level which I am much more familiar with than 5+ I'm not familiar with when play spots come in at different channels but I'll find out. Cheers

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Re: Trip Report: Rouge 'Seven Sisters' section Saturday November 5th 2011
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2011, 02:41:00 PM »
Hey--no need to apologise. As a group, we were able to deal with everything properly. And, as was demonstrated Saturday, the so-called 'less-experienced' paddlers can perform excellent rescues!

I was using the events as an example of the need to have adequate gear. Believe it or not, some people are very reluctant to help out. They often say that because they are inexperienced, they should not be required to participate in rescues because they could do more harm than if they just stand there and watch etc. etc. Well, it's clear that they will remain inexperienced if that's how they think. Or they say that they only paddle 'safe' rivers and they never swim, so they don't need floatation, and beside, floatation bags take up the room reserved for their lunch etc etc.  And--you might think I make this up--I've heard people who have been paddling for more than 10 years use these excuses. 

So how do you acquire experience in rescues, without taking an actual course? You start small. For instance, as we saw, below the Washing Machine is a very good starting point. Safety (in the form of someone with a throw bag) is often required there, and the current is relatively slow, thus not too likely to endanger the rescuer. And if this is about to happen anyway? Let go of the rope!

As for the weekend, it now looks like Saturday might be better. So let's see! --C.

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Re: Trip Report: Rouge 'Seven Sisters' section Saturday November 5th 2011
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2011, 08:53:14 AM »
The run was great, thanks for allowing Graham and I to tag along. I just wanted to add that there was indeed two other paddlers at the bottom of the washing machine in the event of another swimmer although I understand what you mean by everyone should have a throw bag and know how to use it. No sense in having a newbie get themselves dragged in because they weren't ready to absorb the force on the rope.

Also I wanted to apologize for the float bag problem. I own float bags but unfortunately they ended up forgotten in a boat I borrowed when I returned it. I've rescued a few boats myself and recognize how much easier flotation makes emptying a boat especially the higher volume one like creekers.

Either way it was a fun run. I have some video and photos myself once I pull the camera out of my PFD and up load them to my computer.

So I guess you guys are hitting up the rouge again. I was hoping you could join us on the Ottawa this weekend. It looks like Sunday may be the best day due to the weather being slightly warmer. I've posted a thread about it so let us know, we'd love to have you join us.

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Re: Trip Report: Rouge 'Seven Sisters' section Saturday November 5th 2011
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2011, 01:49:06 PM »
I am  ;)
...and I am carpooling with Daniel!

P.S.  Christian, isn't the movie night the 18th?
Caroline
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Re: Trip Report: Rouge 'Seven Sisters' section Saturday November 5th 2011
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2011, 01:37:38 PM »
Ha! That's my punishment for being picky about safety... Cut in 1/2 in the picture!

Hey, the Rouge level is still going down, 68 right now (down from 75 three days ago). Anyone in for a repeat next weekend, before the movie night?

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Re: Trip Report: Rouge 'Seven Sisters' section Saturday November 5th 2011
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2011, 06:42:01 AM »
The 8/9 team's picture... sorry Christian!!

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Re: Trip Report: Rouge 'Seven Sisters' section Saturday November 5th 2011
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2011, 02:53:17 AM »
Good points, Christian. I'd love to attend a safety course - maybe we could organize something like that in the upcoming season? I don't recall who has been elected as the educational boss?
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Trip Report: Rouge 'Seven Sisters' section Saturday November 5th 2011
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2011, 06:06:11 PM »
What a nice way to prepare for the club AGM! Last Saturday, nine of us, including four who were there for the first time in a kayak, embarked for the run of an interesting section of the Rouge river, ending in the Ottawa river Quebec side just upstream of Hawkesbury. The river level was 75 on the gauge, the beginning of the 'intermediate' range: as our group varried considerably in skill, it was natural that 'adventure' would ensue. What was not expected was that the adventure did not come exclusively from the less experienced bunch...

Unlike the Ottawa river, this section starts with nice long warmup Class II-II+ rapids before the first significant drop, itself followed by a recovery pool. Then the fun starts: a long rapid (1.5 km) containing a mix of Class II-III with a couple Class IV features. At the beginning, there are two main lines to navigate the 'Slice'n'Dice'. Caroline, undecided, went right in between the two lines, into the hole that separates the two. I am happy to report that we were able to fish her and ALL her gear before it got serious.   

Most that attempted the following part did well, ending up where they had planned. I, for a change, wanted to be creative and chose a less-than-optimal line. After rolling up 2-3 times in the holes and boils that followed the 'Mushroom', I found myself upright in calm waters... just above the Washing Machine. One gulp of air, one paddle stroke, then the wash/rinse/spin cycle...

I found myself very clean indeed afterwards, as I paddled back up the eddy to watch Jacques demonstrate how to run this drop. He did a good job, only to be caught by a boil. The poor guy was repeatedly tossed against the shore trying to roll, while people were standing powerless mere feet away. Until he pulled the plug that is, after which he was safely roped to shore. The water was pushy and he would otherwise have had an unpleasant ride all the way down the 'Surprise' (Class III) and the following rock garden.

I ended up chasing his boat for about 500 m in Class II-III waters before I could secure it on the shore. Then the rest of the run went without incident. Many tried the seal launch between the last two waterfalls, and the last rapid was a nice long Class III finsh for the day, without unwanted sights... 

This is a good opportunity to emphasise two points related to safety:

(1) Jacques was safely brought to shore because someone was right there with a throw bag IN HANDS. Ironically, it was his own rope which he had lent to a less experienced paddler that skipped the rapid. EVERY paddler on a river need to carry a throw bag and have it handy when scouting/walking. If more than one person had been swimming, the one throw bag would not have been enough (they can't be re-used immediately). If you feel that you don't have enough experience to use it, carry one anyway: someone else could use it. Or it could be needed to extract something out of the river.

(2) I chased Jacques' boat for over 500 m because I could not hold it long enough to empty it, nor push it on shore. The problem? Inadequate floatation. Why wasn't the boat fully equipped with floatation bags? Because one less experienced paddler had NO floatation at all in the boat, and Jacques took the risk of lending his own air bags. It is imperative that EVERY paddler, regardless of skill level, paddles a boat that is fully outfitted with floatation.

A classic case of unforeseen 'Domino Effect': the choices made by some paddlers (insufficient floatation, inadequate clothing, lack of safety gear etc.) have repercussions for people OTHER than them. You will recall that the person who unfortunately died on the Moose river this fall was chasing after SOMEONE ELSE's gear. I took the time this Spring to write about minimum safety gear requirements when running rivers:
http://www.cdb-ottawa.com/simplemachinesforum/index.php?topic=4403.0
Read it! The topic has only been viewed a relatively few times, generated only one real reply, and clearly wasn't taken seriously. Proper attention to safety could save your own life, but just as importantly, it could allow you to sleep at night for the rest of your life if a tragedy is avoided.

On a lighter note, below are a few photos from the run. Cheers! --Christian


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