I think I'll join you guys. Just one question, do you guys normally play and run the canyon a few times before heading out to do the rest, or are you running the whole thing in one shot? Reason I'm asking is that I would need to get out early. If you guys do the whole thing without really stopping for lunch of play or whatever that would be fine. If you guys intent to play a bit at the canyon then I think I'll just park my car at the put-in, play a bit and then leave from there when you guys decide to run the rest. Need to do some renos at by bro-in-law so I can't arrive too late in the afternoon. Thanks.