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Offline ChristianG

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Re: Thursday is Paddling at Champlain Bridge Club Night
« Reply #32 on: May 25, 2017, 02:17:14 PM »
May 25: anybody going tonight? Could be the last chance, as river level is droppintg fast... Then visit the pub to iron out weekend plans!

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Re: Thursday is Paddling at Champlain Bridge Club Night
« Reply #31 on: May 18, 2017, 03:53:05 PM »
At risk of stating the obvious, a group of us will be at Champlain this evening and heading over to Whispers after 7:00p to cope with this terrible weather...  (May 19)

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Re: Thursday is Paddling at Champlain Bridge Club Night
« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2017, 04:23:34 PM »
Super! I'll be there Thursday after work!

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Re: Thursday is Paddling at Champlain Bridge Club Night
« Reply #29 on: May 17, 2017, 12:32:45 PM »
Just got a call from the NCC. Bate Island has been reopened as of earlier today!!!!!

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Re: Thursday is Paddling at Champlain Bridge Club Night
« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2017, 04:02:54 PM »
Hi all.

I was just on the phone with the NCC, identifying myself as a kayaker normally paddling at Bate Island. She assured me that the re-opening of the Island was a priority. It turns out that this island is important not just for paddlers/surfers, but to others as well: families pic-nics, fishing etc.: we are not the only ones calling them about it. She believes that tomorrow the NCC website will be updated.

They are legitimately worried about erosion and damage to the island. Let's be realistic: if one young child falls in the river because of wall collapse (or whatever), a mob would be screaming to punish the NCC for re-opening an unsafe island. 

Let's be patient, the river level is still 20 cm higher than peak level last year, see below. If they re-open it by Thursday, let's all go and celebrate it--first in the water, then at the pub! Cheers all...

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Re: Thursday is Paddling at Champlain Bridge Club Night
« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2017, 02:29:30 PM »
Thanks for calling them, Adam!

It's important not to sound whiny or entitled, not to brandish 'Navigable Water' etc.

They know that at least once somebody pulled a 'ghost kayak' found empty (but with name and phone number) behind parliament after going down Chaudière Falls in Spring 2007, and how much it cost then to have police divers search the bottom of the river, all the while said kayak owner was busy driving along shore to try to find the boat. Old club members know who that person is (hint: now living in Montréal).

We should instead reassure them that we wear immersion-ready dry suits, many of us have rescue certifications, and that we are a sort of 'quick-response asset' when paddling there, if some bozo ends up in trouble (like the pair in a canoe rescued by a runner, search old news on CBC TV).

So let's see what they do. Level is now going down a bit.

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Re: Thursday is Paddling at Champlain Bridge Club Night
« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2017, 12:13:43 PM »
I phoned the NCC yesterday. The woman said that there was to be a meeting today to decide when it could be opened. The engineering assessment had to take place to make sure it was 'safe' (health wise etc.) She is supposed to get back to me today.

I encourage others to phone as well.

Adam

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Re: Thursday is Paddling at Champlain Bridge Club Night
« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2017, 12:06:13 PM »
Hi Rick,

Thanks for the information. I will ferry over from another location and make sure I do not use the island for access. As far as I know, the river is still fair game as long as you don't create a wake...

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Re: Thursday is Paddling at Champlain Bridge Club Night
« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2017, 08:54:14 AM »
When they say closed, do they mean closed to pedestrians as well? I will be going tomorrow after work and either portaging to Bate if pedestrian access is allowed. If not, I will put in somewhere upstream.

Elizabeth

Yes, they mean everyone, both motorists and pedestrians. However the barrier is just a couple of sawhorses and
some yellow tape so you could easily duck under the tape and access the island. However, you would be risking arrest and/or a fine by the RCMP and you could jeopardize the lobbying effort to get the NCC to re-open the site. The best thing you can do is sign the online petition and call the NCC at 613-239-5000  and politely lobby them to get on with their inspection and re-open the island.

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Re: Thursday is Paddling at Champlain Bridge Club Night
« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2017, 11:19:56 PM »
When they say closed, do they mean closed to pedestrians as well? I will be going tomorrow after work and either portaging to Bate if pedestrian access is allowed. If not, I will put in somewhere upstream.

Elizabeth

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Re: Thursday is Paddling at Champlain Bridge Club Night
« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2017, 11:06:22 PM »
Correct - I got nothing to do with creating or writing the online petition... just passing along the stuff.
Larry W

Great job indeed. But I believe John Rathwell wrote it, not Larry "Cracked Kayak" Wong... I just signed it.

By the way, I am sure that at least one guy 'bates there after dark, but it is in fact called Bate Island.

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Re: Thursday is Paddling at Champlain Bridge Club Night
« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2017, 09:51:10 PM »
Great job indeed. But I believe John Rathwell wrote it, not Larry "Cracked Kayak" Wong... I just signed it.

By the way, I am sure that at least one guy 'bates there after dark, but it is in fact called Bate Island.

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Re: Thursday is Paddling at Champlain Bridge Club Night
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Re: Thursday is Paddling at Champlain Bridge Club Night
« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2017, 04:38:02 PM »
Just to let everyone know, apparently the NCC says that bates island is officially closed indefinitely, so it might be good to put in on the ontario side and paddle over to the way.
I was there yesterday, and saw no real signs that it was supposed to be closed. Didn't notice any damage from any erosion activity or anything like that either.

I was there yesterday and it was obvious that it was supposed to be closed, but someone had moved the barriers to the side so that they could access the island, the kind of thing that could annoy the authorities and delay re-opening. If you are interested in getting it open I suggest you call the NCC at 613-239-5000 and explain that the conditions are great for kayaking and surfing and encourage them to open it as soon as possible.  They will explain that it had been flooded the previous weekend and they feel that they need to inspect the site for damage and/or hazardous conditions and that might take time because they have a lot of sites to inspect. Fair enough, but you can point out, as I did, that kayaking
only lasts for a few weeks in the spring and conditions are currently ideal, and it would be much appreciated if they could get to it sooner rather than later. It may, or may not, make a difference but it can't hurt to call and voice your opinion.